Epax x1 vs photon s reddit 111K subscribers in the PrintedMinis community. 72K subscribers in the resinprinting community. The Photon gave me constant headaches. So if manufacturer support is worth >$1000 to you, then by all means. I was looking to adquire a resin printer and looked at EPAX X1 (normal edition, non DJ) which i can adquire for 500-600€ or 700€ the DJ edition, now i face with Phrozen Sonic Mini, almost same build volume but already have ParaLED and monocromatic LCD which is a great plus giving the cure times, and that only for 370€. 0 download which adds back support for the older slice formats . Maintenance is easy - changing to nfep from FEP was a cakewalk. I know there are plenty Is the Anycubic Photon S better suited for your needs than the EPAX X1? What is the difference in technical specifications? See all differences in Product Chart's side by side comparison. That, and photon file validator (which I use a lot) doesn't read ctb's. I believe it’s more expensive due to better build quality. The pixels are not rectangular. But if you’re on a budget, the drop in resolution may not be a big deal. Then you're back in the same boat that it's not available now. I saw videos of… I know quality of print wise, I won’t be getting much better than the photon but I want better construction, easier maintainance and replacement of parts etc. Epax however you would have to wait through the preorders for an unknown time. The issue is that i've got a time limit because someone is going to the US for travel and has accepted to bring a printer. I do have a ton to learn, but that will be true of any lcd/sla type printer. It’s been great but it is a more expensive than the Mars or Photon. Epax X1 if you don't mind spending the money, it's pre- leveled and build quality is solid. I'm on my second Photon with Amazon and this one seems good (first had handful of assembly issues plus intermittent print LCD). Aug 25, 2019 · Is the Epax X1 UV LCD Resin 3D printer a worthy competitor to the Anycubic Photon S? Read on as we review the specs of this machine. 0 mm in mechanical keyboards. Jul 23, 2022 · The EPAX X1 at first glance looks like a horrible deal as it shares the same hardware as the Anycubic Photon S and Elegoo Mars Pro but with a price tag of $100 more. Hey guys, So i saw that anycubic was having a sale and i was wondering which do you guys think i should get for a first time 3D printer user. Any resin printers you want to avoid getting the resin on your skin as much as possible. Z-wobble made my print quality go down. It’s also very stealth. Just got a new epax x1 and am trying to dial the settings into mainly print miniatures I am using elegoo water washable resin with the following settings Exposure time-9s Bottom exposure -50s And I cure for about 6min in my cutting station (probably to the Anycubic Photon S) Mid-range vs entry level - I'd like to go for the mid-range models rather than entry-level, because (although it's by no means cheap) it's roughly affordable, and I figure I want something I'm happy with and can continue using for a number of years rather than feel like I want to upgrade it after a few prints The Epax is essentially an upgraded Anycubic Photon, and most of the help you can get for the Photon is available for the Epax. The fan rarely ramps up on my X1 Carbon and when it runs, 99% of the time it is extremely quiet and very easy to forget it's running. 0. But it’s been ‘days away’ for months now. I’m considering selling my SM4K’s & picking up another Epax. " I bought a epax x1 just before they upgraded to 4k, then chitubox upgraded, but not for the epax, so I was using a older version of chitubox. 035mm). 1” 14k 16. The delivery time & expense for replacement parts isn’t practical. Meanwhile the epax x1 comes pre leveled from the factory and if not abused will not need to be re-leveled by the user. hey guys im looking to buy a resin 3d printer i dot have experience but im torn between these printers. 05mm vs 0. How lengthy is the cleanup and curing process with your prints in comparison to photon prints? Asking since the epax seems to be the same price as the photon, and the photon is one of the more popular resin printers out there right Z-homing - also kind of marketing-ey. Here are the improvements (some words taken from an early customer's review): No Z-Wobble - Upgraded Z-axis carriage rail. Enough with the gun metaphors. EPAX Fast PLA+ Galaxy Shimmer Series EPAX Fast PLA+ Specialty Colors EPAX Magic Silk PLA EPAX Fast PETG EPAX TPU 95A EPAX CMYK Bundle Wholesale Cases Filaments 2. When it comes to their individual company support, both companies have excellent customer service to help you with any problems you may have. Angus did say in his video on the Elegoo Mars that they are going to release a new version in the next few weeks. To contact, visit Anycubic Support or Epax Support. 032mm Hey, thanks for detailed reply. My photon still prints great, but the lower cure time and therefore extended LCD life of mono screen printers is really appealing. There's no direct ventilation outside but it's seemed fine to me so far. It was just frustrating and a waste of time. In the past I’ve used eSun bio resin red and have mediocre success, mostly detail issues and brittle prints. ) The Mighty has slightly worse XY resolution than the other 2 printers. How Does the Epax X1 Compare with Anycubic Photon Printers? The Epax X1 is relatively more expensive compared to Anycubic Photon printers but it’s definitely worth it. Elegoo Mars, Epax X1, or Original Photon. What makes the X1 quieter than the photon or mars is that the fan only runs while printing, where I think those other printers run the fan so long as the machine is on. More of a small dirt bike engine. Even though there are 2. I'm looking at both the Epax X1 and Moai 130 printers to purchase. In your case your printers are supported, but if you want to use PrusaSlicer directly and discard chitubox you must duplicate one of my profiles and configure it, I currenly have Epax X1 and Sonic Mini configured I have an EPAX X1 with some upgrades including light and screen. Sonic mini is also a good one as well as the Epax X1. So fidelity is higher which reallybhelps on large flat surfaces and would also turn a slightly hairy looking lump on a 28mm figurine's face into an eyebrow. No reason to get the S or the SL1. Hey guys, Ordered the Epax X1 tonight. I also own an Epax X1-4K. I had to relevel the print bed every. You have a Fauxton, a Photon with a Photon s motherboard, so I am not sure which you need. Parallel Matrix UV Light Mod Kit for EPAX X1/X1-N/X1-K Genuine 5. I already have a Prusa Mk3S, but I feel the minis it produces don't have the detail or strength. Epax X1. It’s more for people that weight is a concern and pedal a lot. We also teamed up with ESUN to offer complete solution to users. When attempting to power on, I get a blue light on hdmi board, 2 red on mobo and a red on the optical switch in the resin vat side of printer. 30 votes, 10 comments. single. 5" 2560x1440 Light Curing Display for LCD 3D Printers, covered with tempered glass - For X1 with SX03 interface EPAX X1 3D printer power supply brick and cord EDIT: support responded and said yes these work with the base X1 and effectively turn it into X1-DJ. I have a photon and an X1 and I’m currently considering selling one or both of them and getting a sonic. I think we're crossing thoughts, someone indicated that the Mars Pro was better than the Epax X1 in features, which is incorrect. Sep 14, 2019 · There was a recent huge price drop on the Epax X1 which really makes it competitive! See my prints and hear what I have to say about this awesome machine (more awesome at its new price lol). My previous printer was an epax X1 with a 2k screen but a much smaller build plate, meaning that the resolution on there was similar to the Mono X. EPAX E6 X1 nFEP Film Sheet 200 x 140mm Thickness 0. I'm still figuring out the best practices, but so far i'm having good luck using denatured alcohol to clean printed objects and the vat/build plate of my new Epax x1 printer. If I could buy the Form3 and have it delivered… On the FB Dental groups they are saying that because of the brighter LED array you can actually print faster (shorter exposure times) on the Photon-S than the Photon. I used a Fine (600 mesh) red DMT diamond honing stone flat against the plate to remove any raised burrs. In all seriousness, how seriously should I take EPAX’s warning about not buying one for my first resin printer? Also, does anyone have detailed images of X1 vs X10 prints? I worry about the detail due to using the same screen resolution. The OG Photon uses sx03, the Photon s uses sx04. Interesting. . Also note: I highly suggest buying from Amazon if you buy a Photon. For resin printers it's better quality for figurines, and costs like 13 cents for a figure in resin material. For those curious about source: This is a test print of one of the bosses releasing to backers next week from The Lost Adventures KS. The proton is very light and has refined torque sensing pedal assist. You’re going to have to play with it but generally 40ish seconds first layers and 8-10 layer time is a good place to start Posted by u/Vedemin - 1 vote and no comments Also, an AA update for the original has been announced. I already asked to cancel Photon-S order, but now I'm looking up for what to get. On a budget, there are three great choices for Mini Printing: Anycubic Photon (not Photon S) Elegoo Mars. (The photonS is $599, but I figure at that point the price is too close to the epax x1 which is meant to be a decent upgrade?) Unfortunately the reviews for the epax and creality are few and far between. While I… I am looking to get an SLA printer. The prints are BEAUTIFUL (using Epax Hard Resin and Siraya Sculpt). The axolotl dragon was quite the challenge. It's just that the Epax X1 is a better machine imho. Been using it for 3 weeks and haven't had to clean the build plate or resin tray outside of running a plastic squeegee over them when changing resins. I've switched to the PFA on all 3 of my printers (Photon, Anet N4 & Epax X1, in order of purchase) and have far fewer print problems on the 1st 2 units. Im not sure what software that older Photon is able to use, but if its the one with the proprietary soft ware, Id recommend don't get it. In my case the Photon S turned out to be the better option as it was the cheaper option and it is easier to get replacement parts for it where I live. Yes i… Looking to buy one of these two. I bought the below on Amazon for my new Mono X. 0 made by esun, same machine) All prices include shipping. print. The Epax E10 was my FIRST 3d printer ever and it’s AMAZING. It has AA and is essentially what the s should have been. Good info. I’d love to hear anyone’s experiences moving on from the Photon range. So, I am… Subreddit dedicated to creating a community around users of SLA and other resin-based 3D printing systems. Your pixels per inch drops as your resolution stays the same but size increases, so, the PPI on the 10" model is about half that of the 5. Some YouTubers got advance units to review but nobody has done a head to head vs the Photon S. Thing just works. I also have come to appreciate the lower travel over the 4. Do you see visible differences in detail between your x10-4k mono vs The other more popular MSLA printers of similar build volume to the Photon S are the "Epax X1" and "Elegoo Mars" (and "Elegoo Mars Pro"). With that said, I’d like to know what is the most recommended resin currently for printing high detail miniatures 28-40mm to capture the detail, and provide a strong The two you mentioned are the most popular entry level printers. photon… Print quality is my primary concern, I want good details and minimal layer lines. I didn’t know about the mini. Epax support is no longer available in my country but at least I still have a really robust machine that I might have to do similar thing about the From all times I've sen posted for Photon S, it is the same as Mars and Epax x1. So I own an Anycubic Photon S and have been using a Wham Bam FBS flexible build system for a month almost and I am amazed. 05mm Mars 3/Mini 4k - 0. I've been experimenting with the settings using this calibration matrix, but I can't entirely tell which issues are caused by what. It's really not hard on the Photon; it's not something to worry about. Printed On: EPAX X1 (and two pieces on the Photon) using a mixture of the pink and blue Anycubic Bio Resin. I’m looking at everything up to Phrozen XL. How bad are the fumes on this printer? How bad is the odor? I’ve read that the photon’s fumes are quite toxic. I have a Photon S and love it but for a child I would probably go with the cheaper option. Got a print you want to… The body is fine and will not affect anything even though it's plastic. Looks like Epax is taking preorders for a 10. So for me the Mono X was a size upgrade, but not a print quality upgrade while the 6k was both. Wish I'd known about the Epax. I'm having the same doubt as op. The Epax X1 looks interesting and price is quite similar as Photon-S, but I don't know much about it. Posted by u/xtianmic - 1 vote and 9 comments Hey guys, so I recently got an Epax X1, and have had mixed results with my first dozen prints. I’ll be testing them out next week. So I'm leaning toward the anycubic but I was wondering if anybody had a preference or if they differ in a way I don't know about. On my D7 and also my EPAX X1, I have always used a razor blade to lift up one corner of the models and then use a plastic spatula to work my way down the model until it pops off. For comparison, resolutions: Photon Zero - 0. Its specialty is small detailed models, like figurines and gaming miniatures. Reply reply Posted by u/redzombi2k - 3 votes and 6 comments Anycubic M3, M3 Plus, M3 Max, improved profile for Mono X 6K, Mono 4K and Photon Ultra Creality Halot One Plus and Halot One Pro Elegoo Jupiter: improved profile EPAX X1 4KS, E10 8K, X10 5K, X133 6K Dental Makers Lightbuilder and Lightbuilder Max) Here's their discord if you wanna join: Lychee Discord 108K subscribers in the PrintedMinis community. Welcome to the Ender 3 community, a specialized subreddit for all users of the Ender 3 3D printer. I do like the Epax X1 a bit more and am currently looking to sell my less than a week old Photon S (I don't need 3 SLA printers lol). Folks, EPAX X1 LCD Printer is specially engineered to address main pain points of current LCD Resin Printers. Assuming they perform about the same I would go with what’s cheaper (probably the Mars Pro). 5/6 inch UV Resin 3D Printers, Pack of 3 Films I got an X1 recently and other than my own dumb noob first time operator errors, the X1 performs very nicely. Hey guys I purchased two mars pros and one Anycubic photon s and all three machines have sever bleed and overexposure in the center of the screen… Dec 17, 2024 · The Epax X1 is an entry-level 3D printer designed to print objects for everyday use. I decided to with an EPAX X1 for $500 flat. Amazon has an official Epax outlet, that might help you avoid the import costs as they may already have some on the ground in EU No no, you're fine! It's because they are the same resolution, so the actual pixels used to mask out the pattern are larger when the displays are larger. Been looking at buying a resin printer and narrowed it down to the anycubic photon mono and the epax e6. Here, enthusiasts, hobbyists, and professionals gather to discuss, troubleshoot, and explore everything related to 3D printing with the Ender 3. They still say that the Epax X1 is the one to beat speed wise without sacrificing quality. 44 subscribers in the engineerable community. Pro gen 3 is much more powerful but it’s heavy and kinda loud. This subreddit is dedicated to 3D Printing Miniatures for Tabletop Games. 8 x 24. Transition Layers are baked into the firmware from what i can see its 20 layers forced, so if you're doing a photonsters resin xp2 validation test for a new batch of resin on a mono x and your settings are like this; Got the Epax x1. I’m amazed by it. Its a messy process of convert to cbddlp -> photon file validator -> go back to chitubox and manually fix them --> save as ctb When file validator auto fixes 95% of minor model errors. Also google "fdm vs sla" and/or "fdm vs resin" to learn what the pros, cons, and requirements are for them. Also technically not close to being legal on public roads. Pop it open and check the ribbon cable. I've checked and double checked everything is seated properly. the Photon-S), but it's not going to be a massive Hey guys I just recently purchased a epax x1 from a friend its the 2k one just a small printer to get me started I'm having trouble getting the full potential of this printer also been doing a lot of test prints with innovations matrix!. Not having to worry about leveling the build plate makes transiting between prints a breeze. However, the resolution will not be as good as the Epax, which offers 2K @ 2560 x 1440. :) I'm REALLY close to buying a Photon (or S), but I really hate the amount of tinkering I had to do with my Monoprice… Subreddit dedicated to creating a community around users of SLA and other resin-based 3D printing systems. In no way am I saying that the OG photon is terrible, it's a great printer that can produce awesome quality prints. It was more expensive but we’ll worth the premium price in my opinion. So, I have both printers and both seem to make equal quality prints (I have yet to experience any z wobble issues on the Photon) but the difference is that the EPAX X1, on average, prints objects in 77% of the time the Photon does) That almost makes up for the difference in price I've looked a lot at the elegoo mars (and pro) and heard that the epax is also a good option. I hollowed the body and head and separated quite a few parts (base, body, head, pearl, gills, and whiskers). This is a subreddit for all things related to the Epax X1 DLP printer. Hinges - Yeah, they're really reaching now. Resin - same for any MSLA printer. The one person I know with a Photon has had it in a small utility room without any direct ventilation for quite a while with no real issues so, while I'm sure it's probably not the best, I've got mine in our sub-basement where the furnace and stuff live. Hey, I've gotten an installed the 4k upgrade, new screen mobo hdmi board etc. Additionally i live in the EU so Epax is unfortunately less available and I'm having additional doubts between buying Epax x1k (800euros) or Phrozen sonic mini (350 euro's) and maybe upgrade later to elegoo saturn 4k mono when it's available. I just really like how it sounds and feels. I've tried… This work with every printer that make use of supported file formats. Should I invest my saved money for a epax x10 or should I wait for the phenom or phrozen to drop in price? Hey everyone i have a curious question, i've done some googling but i cant find any solid info on this one. 133 votes, 42 comments. Jan 2, 2025 · The Anycubic Photon Mono X2 is a fantastic resin 3D printer that combines affordability, a generous build volume, and great 4K resolution. Thx. All the reviews I've read say it's worth the extra money. It's gonna be your printer in your living space so you'll benefit from doing some research and knowing what you'll be getting into, rather than us just saying "get printer X. Like you when starting out I scratched my EPAX X1-DJ's build plate in a couple of places with the metal putty knife that came with my printer. Budget isn't too much of an issue. I will scrub the aluminum parts with an old tooth brush and usung a gentle dragging motion with a large 'fan' type oil painting brush works great on the FEP film. Epax X1 vs Anycubic Photon – Pros and Cons Epax X1 Pros. It delivers crisp details at 48 microns per—smaller In this video I go over my decision to keep the EPAX X1 resin 3D printer having also tried the Anycubic Photon S and original Photon. Very recently my printer seems to be having issues on one side of the build plate, everything I put there seems to come out jagged. Edit: u/Wefyb Pointed out that you do get Prusa support with the SL1. Feel free to post news… Replacement screen from Epax may have a simple adapter but it's for the color LCD replacement from them. How's your feelings on the Epax machine? On paper, it looks like a little bit nicer version of a Photon. Hello guys this is my first post here and as a noob i have a noob question. I've been using 8 seconds at . 115mm Mars 2/Photon Mono - 0. Looking to buy one of these two. A beast. On the X1 and D7, I rarely had problems with models cracking. Its the machine I can trust. Looks like it will have a larger touch screen and network printing with internal storage. Which, probably is wrong, but it's close enough. I’ll believe it when I see it. Over time, I've come to prefer my X1 Carbon keyboard over my Anne Pro 2. If not, there is plenty of user support for any of the other printers. 125mm for E6 and Other 5. And before anyone gets worried, I've cleaned out the vat several times to make sure there's no leftover pieces blocking it. Solid metal construction; Clamshell lid secures the environment; High-quality, precise finish epax x1 $699aud. However, with the X1 arriving fully leveled and ready to print from the factory, brand agnostic part compatibility, included resin profiles and western based aftermarket support sets the EPAX X1 apart from its siblings and we 776 subscribers in the EpaxX1Owners community. What version should I buy? the old or the new S version. Apparently, it now has the same wattage, 40W, from its LCD as the Epax X1. Also edit - that thing (Epax) is so loud, from the video I watched. I will be using it for business and hobby… My X1's plate goes down to the bottom then stays there with a horrible noise and does nothing unless I press the plate arm down just enough for it to get going. 8 micron printer. (I don't understand why these printer companies keep making these kind of stupid ass decisions. I'm getting one right after Christmas. It has solid construction, thoughtful design, and terrific after sale support. I'm also going to buy a CR10SPro. The mini supposedly has a lower resolution, i cannot tell the difference. I have the Epax X1 and it was my first resin printer. 5 time as many pixels on the 2 vs 3, the pixel width is only less than half (0. I have both a Photon and an Epax X1 (recently upgraded the UV light, so now it is technically an X1 DJ), and the X1 was worth the money. I think with this pair, I should be able to print any structure from 100um -> 300mm. However once painted the difference between the Elegoo Mars prints and the Epax is imperceptible, so if you want to save money or buy an Elegoo Mars with resin and post processing materials/gear I'd personally do that. On the photon and photon S page there's a new FW 5. Got… I sculpted these minis and printed them on my EPAX X1-DJ in Elegoo Maroon, then primed in Stynlrez Grey primer with a healthy dose of thinner+flow improver to give it a little sheen. I have an X1 but never took it apart as both printers are still in good running condition. 5" model. I would expect to be able to get a Saturn sooner though, as they have finished the preorder and are sending units to amazon any time now. In terms of quality The Mars Pro isn’t released yet. Bed leveling is super easy, done once and forget about it. I DO think its clearly better at releasing the cured resin. 0, but it gave me little to no review or result, and I had a guess, if it might be a rebrand for Epax X1 for certain regions, even the Australian distributor website has a blunder in the description mentioning EPAX X1. The Epax was my primary choice before supplies got limited because of build quality and good prints. +1 to Epax X1. I'd definitely go for the Epax. I was wondering if you guys use them too in you X1s and X1Ks since I bought an X1K off of Amazon and want to install the wham bam system on it too. It is possible to buy 3rd sx04 clones that come with a 90° adapter. It's rumored that it may be upgradable to a monochrome LCD in the future as well. Looking to buy one of these two. Fans and with Z axis movement. Posted by u/Vedemin - 2 votes and 4 comments Phrozens customer service isn’t great either. Hi all! I just set my new X1-N up and, while I've been able to approximate settings for the resin that I'm using (Elegoo Water Washable Grey) by doing math on a few of the spreadsheets that are out there, but it would be great to have an actual exposure test to run. The price difference is considerable, Epax X1 K going for $480, Anycubic Photon Mono for $230. Main goal is detailed small/miniature models. It’ll get you in the ballpark. Note: The Photon S isn't the same, and uses different stuff and file formats. The Epax is more full featured and has the sorts of Z-axis improvements that the Photon-S has over the basic Photon, among other refinements. I have a Photon s and x2 Epax X1's and I'd say they are both solid and are pretty similar. From what I can tell the difference between the two is the epax has better customer service but costs $30 more. The Mars 3 does have that resolution bump, but it's barely noticeable - even more so with the epax x1. I've been doing a lot of poking around because they are hiring locally for a tech and wanted to get an idea if that might be a good opportunity to make this 3d printing thing full time. 035mm Epax X1 - 0. I’m swaying towards an Epax X1 or a Phrozen Shuffle. 782 subscribers in the EpaxX1Owners community. It's a lot more expensive than the other 2 but still in my budget. basically you can pull it out of box, attach build plate, add some resin and print a miniature. I have the EPAX X1 and it's great, easy to use. (Or rather the isun lcd 3. The difference i notice is the life and speed of the sonic mini, it has a special mono screen works better and lasts for 2000+ hours where the epax and the photon last for 500 or so. Recently I've been oogling this iSun LCD 3. 05mm on my Mars for the Orange and Green ECO UV Resins. The place to discuss engineering, design, prototyping, 3D printing, fabrication, CNC machining… Generally the Mars 2 or Photon Mono are the way to go since they are proven printers & still fairly cheap. Some have come out great, others have just failed completely. At retail it's also $100 more than the Mars Pro. There's probably a way to zero it but I simply haven't bothered. Was looking at the photon and mars but decided on the Epax because of quality of life improvements. In terms of build quality it is pretty sturdy. It seems to be an improved version of the Photon and Better than the Photon-S. The sx04 has a straight ribbon cable, the sx03 has a 90° bend. Feel free to ASK questions, POST cool prints, DISCUSS hardware designs, and SHARE anything you think is relevant to resin-based printing. Epax x10 or wait for other bigger msla's to drop on price Interested in buying an resin system but the elegoo Mars, longer 10 and photon do have too small build volumes for my needs. The s does not have AA and likely won’t for quite a while as well Another alternative is the Epax X1. Feel free to post news, reviews, or ask for help. Feel free to post news… The default profile that you can download if you google epax x1 configuration, top result will be the manufacturers site, there’s a profile you can download. I'm looking for your opinion or advice in terms of usability, reliability, reparability, durability and all kinds of ability! Any help appreciated, thanks. So basically, the Z-axis and LEDs should be a little nicer than the Photon (not sure how it compares vs. I have an epax x1 and a phrozen sonic mini. The Photon S looks like a solid printer but between the plastic case, factory leveled build plate, z rails and no required proprietary software the Epax X1 just looks more user friendly. 85mm EPAX Fast PLA+ Parts / Accessories E10 Parts X10 Parts X133 & X156 Parts E6 Parts X1 Parts Support User Manual & Resin Settings EPAX Prints & Machine Settings Well the quality control on the Photon is variable. Subreddit dedicated to creating a community around users of SLA and other resin-based 3D printing… This is a subreddit for all things related to the Epax X1 DLP printer. Posted by u/SamuraiDeveloper - 5 votes and 3 comments Well, as far as advertised specs, the SE is slightly faster than the regular Mono, has an easier to level build plate, a more robust z-axis, carbon filters, a slightly larger control screen and can connect via wi-fi to a phone app. r/EpaxX1Owners: This is a subreddit for all things related to the Epax X1 DLP printer. For example, on the Photon Mono X you can't reliably compensate for elephant's foot when printing directly on the plate, because Anycubic forced it to use transition layers. vshqfv bbtrpy xsm bxd noqiapuf oofdsb zgogv mvyayz kds kzuwym fkh jxth lhralw wxuzgu zpvdww